The Lunch Club Podcast
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The Lunch Club Podcast
My Flower Friend
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We’re back after a long break, and we tell the real reasons why it’s been hard to keep recording while life and business move fast. We introduce Johanna, share the origin story of the Lunch Club, and set the tone for a podcast built on honesty, friendship, and practical florist talk.
• returning to podcasting after a busy season of life and motherhood
• how the Lunch Club starts as a Utah florist meetup
• gatekeeping in the floral industry and why we push against it
• how we meet, start freelancing together, and become best friends
• authenticity online, and being approachable in person
• Marco Polo friendship, daily voice chats, and support through the hard days
• friendship lore, car accident stories, reading obsessions, and pop culture deep dives
• standing up for yourself and having someone who matches your energy
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The Podcast Returns After Life
SPEAKER_00Hello everyone and welcome back to the Lunch Club podcast. It has been quite some time since the last time I recorded, and there is a lot of information that I could give you. But the moral of the story is life caught up to me. I had a baby and a very busy business and lots of things going on, and I have been really sad. I love getting to podcasts. I love sharing all my thoughts. I love being a resource for people who are in the thick of starting their business, running their business, and I've been there where you feel lonely, you want someone to talk to. And I really love the idea of having that space available for other people. And that's what this podcast was meant to be. So if you've been around for more than I don't know, two years, you will know I have a best friend named Johanna. She runs a business as well as a florist. Um, and we were Marco Poloing. We Marco Polo all the like every single day for hours basically, just about all the things business, personal, anything you can imagine. And I was just sharing how I've been feeling a little bit bummed that I haven't had the time to give this podcast what I want it to. It just feels overwhelming. Sometimes I'll record episodes, and then I just lose the energy to actually literally just upload it and post it and share. And then I kind of was thinking while we were talking, like, this is the dialogue that I love sharing, and I wish that we could do this together. But Johanna recent not recently, in my head, it still feels recent. Like almost two years ago. How long has it been? A year ago. She moved back to California. And so at first I was like, oh, it just wouldn't work for us to podcast together. And then I was like, I'm dumb. People do this all the time. So this is our first try at podcasting together from miles and miles away. Um, and this first episode, we wanted to just kind of introduce each other, like for each other, and give you a little bit of our friendship lore and really the foundation of what the lunch club started as and where we are right now. And I'm super excited. So let's get into it, Johanna. Take it away.
How The Lunch Club Started
SPEAKER_01Yay! I'm I'm here, I'm here. I'm Johanna, I'm her. Um, okay, I'm like really, I'm really excited. And um, I think Andrea is, you're like so good at bringing bringing my energy up. Um, I was like, maybe I should drink some caffeine before we start recording. But I think I'm just high on the vibes right now. So uh this is gonna be great. Okay, so we're gonna introduce each other. Um, actually, I want to just start with how we met in general. Um, talk like a little bit more about the lunch club idea. Yes. And like starting that say on's me, like like the beginning of it, and then I'll kind of talk about when I came in.
SPEAKER_00Okay, I love it. Um, okay, so the lunch club started at gosh, it had to have been either 2020 or early, I think it was like early 2021. Um, I had just started like moving into being a home-based florist. I had tried my hand at like a what is it called? Like a brick and mortar floral shop, and I was like realizing I hated that. And so I was kind of in this like explorative, like, what am I doing within my business? I love florals, but like what is what's out there? Um, this was a time when like online resources were still very limited, like there was not really a lot of online education, chat GPT did not exist. Um, social media was even this was like when a lot of influencers like started getting big, like just to paint the picture.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, because like I was gonna say even Instagram, I mean Instagram was its thing, but it it definitely wasn't like this.
SPEAKER_00I'm not even kidding, like pre-reels, like pre-TikTok. Like pre-Tik tock, like it was just very new, all of that. So it was really hard to like find people that you have things in common with, and even like within like floristry as a business, it's really hard because at least, and again, at this time, there were not a lot of florists outside of like a brick and mortar floral shop that were like doing wedding florals, and so like I felt kind of like an anomaly, like being this like younger home-based florist, and kind of like, where do I fit? And so I had posted on my Instagram stories.
SPEAKER_01I feel like in this business, too, like when you when you want to start being a florist, like you decide that's what you want to do. There's really not a uh like dedicated path to how you do that, so like it does look really different for everybody, and yeah, again, it's hard to find other people that are doing the same thing you're doing.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, so there was like not a lot of people doing it, or not a lot of people willing to like share any information. It was very gatekeepy. Oh, yes, gatekeeping, yes, okay.
SPEAKER_01That's the other huge part of it.
SPEAKER_00Like, I would message people, or I would write emails and like ask to come work for someone to shadow, and it was just like I was the most annoying person in the world. To be fair, I get a lot of those emails or DMs sometimes, and it's like, okay, like you gotta make some efforts here. But like, I'm telling you, there were not a lot of like options for like getting into florists.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, well, and and I think it was just this culture of like we've put in the hard work to learn all the things we know as florists, and like we're not gonna give it away.
SPEAKER_00Yes, exactly. And so I had just posted on Instagram, I had like made a couple like Instagram friends, but like I hadn't been like I wasn't freelancing for anyone, I hadn't like met anyone else in the industry. I just kind of followed other people, and so I just posted on my stories like hey, um, I would love to like meet other florists. Um, is anyone interested? I'd love to like do lunch meetups, um, and talk about business, whatever. And so I think it started with probably like 10 solid florists. I would say over half are still like pretty solidly like going for their careers and stuff. It w and then the other half, it kind of like it fizzled out for them. So it was like 10 of us. We maybe met up like once or something, and we started a group message on Instagram, and it kind of became like the resource for florists in Utah. Like, if you needed to hire a freelancer, if you needed extra flowers, if you needed to sell things, like sell your extra blooms. Like, it was just kind of like the page that we did that in. But really quickly, we started adding people into the message, and then we realized that like it caps it at like 23 or 24 people. Um, and so then it started getting a little bit sticky because then I felt like I was gatekeeping because people kept asking me, like, can you add me into the group? And I was like, Well, like, there's not enough room. And I even felt bad there had been drama like a couple times too, where people like were in the message, but I knew that they had like worked for a florist that was also in the message, and so I would like remove people that I was like, Okay, well, I know that you have access to this because you were for someone else, and then they'd get upset that they got removed, but it was like okay, and like there would be people in it that weren't really going after florals, but it was like they again like worked for someone, and so I would try to like make sure that the people in the group were like actively like they needed the resource kind of a thing, but it just like was creating drama, and I was like, I did not sign up for this, but this is you're like, This is the exact opposite. So it eventually moved, it eventually moved. I think Sadie from Sticks and Stamps was like, Let's do um a Slack channel. I had no idea like what it was. Um, but that's been really and it's been there for like probably like four years at this point, where there are probably like hundreds of us in there and it's it's doing its job. Um, but yeah, this was like the very beginning of the whole purpose was like, I just want us to be able to talk. I want us to help each other, I want us to be friends. So we would do monthly meetups. Um, it was like probably a solid year we would meet up for lunch, and it's it's been a while since we've actually done one of these just because we're all so busy. But that is enter Johanna in the in the time of well, maybe it was like 2022 by the time you messaged me. But I think you have the don't worry, I have time. She's got the timestamps.
SPEAKER_01Don't worry. Okay, I do want to say here, like, and I was gonna bring this up later when we kind of share info about each other, but um, I just want to say that something about you that I really admire is kind of like your role in shifting the culture in Utah among florists and like building this network.
SPEAKER_00I just think I'm honored.
From Group Chat Drama To Slack
SPEAKER_01I I I don't yeah, well, and I have to say it because I just I don't think you take as much credit as is due. Like, I think that you essentially were like, okay, like we're gonna change how things go here. And you were like the pioneer that started it, and now the Utah flower community is so much more open, and I it's crazy than moving to California and kind of like I'm essentially starting at ground zero of like in the same place that you were at all that, you know, all that time ago. Uh and and it's like I miss it, and even little things like oh, I wish I had a Slack that I could say, Hey, does anybody have white pedestals? The fact that I have to be DMing people, Facebook messaging people, like it's so annoying to me. So I just I admire you for that, and I think that that's like a really cool, amazing thing that you did. That's so nice. Thank you, thank you. Okay, okay. The day I messaged you the very first time, January 26th, 2021. And I think you I think this was when you were working at the flower shop that like shared the bridal shop wall or whatever, like it was on the other side. Um and I you must have posted something about like maybe you were looking for somebody to come help certain hours. I don't know, but I messaged like I was responding to something. I just said, like, hi, my name is Johanna Hogue. I love your business. Like, are you hiring? And you were like, I'm not, but shoot us an email. We refer to resumes sent there, and I was like, What's the email? Whatever. So nothing crazy in the beginning. Okay, that's January 26th, 2021. May, I'm so embarrassed.
SPEAKER_00You gotta just own it. We've live nine lives.
SPEAKER_01Okay, May 30th, 2021. Okay, first of all, the fact that I it's really cute that I did come to you for this because I didn't have anybody, so you're my one person. All we all you've ever heard from me is, hi, my name is Johanna. I love your business. Are you hiring? And this is me, May 30th, 2021. Okay, I have such a hard time feeling like wholesalers are worth it. I feel like no matter where I get flowers, they're already dying and bruised. At least Trader Joe's in Costco are cheap. Maybe I should find a new wholesaler. The classic. I'm so, I'm so embarrassed. I'm like, uh, why don't you just buy your flowers from Trader Joe's?
How Andrea And Johanna Met
SPEAKER_00You didn't know what you didn't know.
SPEAKER_01I didn't. And you were actually so nice because you kind of were like, um you were like, oh, that's inter that's so interesting. And then you're like, my wholesaler uh doesn't typically sell poor product. And if it is bad, I get my money back. And I do work with like multiple different wholesalers for different products, whatever, whatever. And I I do want to say you can get flowers cheaper at Trader Joe's in Costco than you can a wholesaler. I think people hear, oh, wholesale. Yes, that means it's gonna be cheaper, and that's not necessarily true. And sometimes like that can be a shock when you first start. So it does make sense that I was like, wait, what the hell?
SPEAKER_00Like, I don't like these are more expensive.
SPEAKER_01I don't understand. It is more expensive at the wholesale. So to be fair, that is kind of strange because it's not that the flowers are cheaper, it's that the flowers are better quality.
SPEAKER_00Yes, and you're not paying tax, like that's really what you're doing.
SPEAKER_01Yes, you're not paying tax, yes, like means, and I can't go to Trader Joe's and say, I want 500 white hydrangeas, have them ready for me in three weeks.
SPEAKER_00That's just you can't ask for playa blancas, 50 centimeters, exactly.
SPEAKER_01Yes, they're like cars. So, like what we're paying for is better product, but then also just like availability, being able to pre-order. So, yeah, so there is like I feel like kind of a misconception there, and oh, I could do this cheaper. Like, yeah, it is cheaper, they don't look as good. The other side of this was you kind of were asking me what wholesaler I was using, and I was using a wholesaler that I will say it was is more expensive, and I feel like was giving me poorer product.
SPEAKER_00So I definitely know who you're talking about.
SPEAKER_01I'm gonna give myself, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, she wasn't giving myself grades wrong that she was getting old product because some people do some shady things, and you know what?
SPEAKER_01Yes, if that's how you want to run a little bit there, from there, I feel like that started just our relationship, and you led and guided me, and I don't know, we just kind of like chatted off and on, and then we met and really became friends the next year.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, we met, and then like I think you came to like a lunch meetup, and then I messaged you, and then you know what it is. I think then right after that, it was like a year later, then right after that, I had you come freelance for me for like a couple days.
SPEAKER_01It was like a week in April.
Wholesalers Versus Costco Reality Check
SPEAKER_00Yes, it was like I remember I only I'm okay. This is like kind of something about me. I'll tell you about myself. It's very niche. I have like a really good memory, like, and not just like pretty good, but like kind of almost creepy. Like, I could tell you a specific week and timeline. Like, I know and like what was I wearing? Literally no, like, I'm serious. It was like the week it was like April probably 13th, because the wedding was on my wedding anniversary. I remember like it had been really rainy, and you had your dog hanging out in your car. Like I like I don't know why I remember things, but like my husband gets so frustrated because I'll be like, you know, we'll be having a discrepancy on like when something happened or what was happening, and I'm like, no, this is when it happened, and he's like, gets so annoyed at how confident I am about it, and then like he gets even more mad when he realizes that I'm right. But I'm like, I just I don't know, but I'm really good with dates and time. Like, I just yeah, have a capsule memory. So, yes, I remember this time very well because this was like at the very okay, this is also like some lore for you. This was before like pricing transparency was like a thing, so it's like we had the first step was like, let's all be friends. Second step was like, what are we charging? Because I don't think really a lot of us knew how to price appropriately. So at this point, I wasn't really charging labor costs.
SPEAKER_01Like I was just Oh, oh, it was a I don't know, two years before I was just like so.
SPEAKER_00I this was like the first time I'd like hired a freelancer because I normally just didn't budget for it, and you know, you just do the like all night long thing by yourself and it's hot horrible. And you're like, wait, why am I doing this? And so I had like started charging more, like still probably I'm charging like probably three times as I was then now.
SPEAKER_01But okay, okay, wait. I gotta I have to say right here, my first bridal bouquet ever. Do you want to know how much I charge?
SPEAKER_00It was at$90.
SPEAKER_01$60. Because I used to wonder I was like, oh, these flowers are so expensive. I can't like it.
SPEAKER_00Come on, make it to profit. Dude, that's crazy. Um, yeah. So if you're if you're new here and you're like, wait, labor, yeah, you should be charging labor separate from the cost of the florals. Um, and that's like a tax-specific thing, like technically and specific to Utah. Like, you shouldn't be taxing, you don't want to pay sales tax and use on your labor. So you should have a separate line item so that you're not basically overpaying in taxes, is just how I will dumb that down. Um, but yeah.
SPEAKER_01Let's also say right here that a writable bouquet should start at$350.
SPEAKER_00Minimum$300. Like, and I mean, to be fair, I guess if you're only using like I don't know, eucalyptus, roses, carns, and like I don't know, maybe tulips, like okay, fine, you can probably get away for doing it less. But like one bunch of roses is like the lowest you could get wholesale roses, like$30. And that's yeah.
SPEAKER_01For me, I feel like$40.
SPEAKER_00I mean, yeah, unless ordering wholesale. So mark that by three times alone. Like, you're already in the hundreds with your one item. Yeah. So if you haven't been doing the math, now's a great time. Um, but enough about that. Enough about that. Let's get back to the lore of our friendship. Johanna freelanced for me, and then like she kind of just wasn't.
SPEAKER_01That's I didn't know that I was like in the beginning of your like freelance for the first time. Yeah, like I would hire like definitely got the vibe.
SPEAKER_00I would hire like event people, like event day built like people, but not like building day people. You know.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and it's so funny the way that this works. And I mean, you know, we're gonna talk about this forever and ever and ever. Of um this idea that people kind of, I mean, Florida's kind of put on this front of like how they're doing in their business, and you kind of get this perception that everybody's just doing better than you. And so I had this perception that like you did this all the time, that like you always had freelancers coming over to your house and designing for you. So it's kind of cute now to like learn Yeah, like I did not know what I was saying. Like, that was the beginning. That's so cute.
Pricing Truths And Charging Labor
SPEAKER_00Yeah, this was like the very beginning. I had like a couple friends, and like you were probably like the first like rando that I like hired to. I mean, like that sounds rude, but like I didn't like. No, but we yes, I met you once and was like, yeah, she seemed nice. And I think like at the lunch you'd been like, oh, I'm like just kind of trying to like network and whatever. And I was like, Oh, like she seems super cool. So that's how we met, and then like I don't actually this is where my memory does escape me. Like, I remember you freelanced for me a couple other times that year, but I don't know at what point we became like best friends, like it kind of just like I know snuck up, and like all of a sudden we were texting every single day, and then I want to know how we started Marco Polo. We probably started Marco Poloing, I feel like maybe when you moved.
SPEAKER_01Oh, that makes sense. Because we weren't because I didn't use Marco Polo before that, yeah. Like I started using it to talk to you for sure.
SPEAKER_00I'm like a Marco Polo person. If you haven't been using it, if you've never used it before, I like the the setup of it because you can get a little bit more personal, like you don't have to feel apologetic to send a 10-minute Marco Polo. It's like I'd feel so bad sending a 10-minute voice memo because like they disappear and then you lose them, and then you're like crap.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, why are voice memos so if I get a voice memo? Yeah, like I don't know.
SPEAKER_00I just like stress where like my Marco Polo, I can just like open it and like we can chat and like I can just come back. It feels like the timeline of responsiveness feels less uptight to me than like a memo.
SPEAKER_01Agreed.
SPEAKER_00So we've been Marco poloing um somewhere in there. Yeah, we became like best friends. I think we just share like unapologetic authenticity, and that sounds like a little braggy.
SPEAKER_01Like, I don't now that I've said that, I'm like, and like it they kind of sound like buzzwords too. Like at this point, I kind of feel like we're all saying them, but but it's it's so important, and actually being authentic instead of this version, oh man, I could talk for days about this. I feel like there's this version of like, oh yeah, like I'm authentic. Like here I am, like without my makeup, and like here's my you know, but it's like it's still curating, yeah.
Why Marco Polo Works For Friendship
SPEAKER_00But you but you still cleaned the whole room that you were in to take that video, which doesn't yes, and I think that's what bothers me a lot. And like I try so hard. I was telling Johanna this the other day. I I pride myself on being someone who is like approachable and kind, and obviously, like everyone has their good and bad days, okay? Like, don't catch me on a bad day. Like, I can get really frustrated, but I try really hard. Like, if I see people at a market or at the wholesaler, like I try really hard to like be authentically me and like and reach out and say, like, oh hi, like what are you getting flowers for? Just because like that's how I uh present myself online, and I don't ever want to be one of those people that you're like, oh, she seems so nice, and then you meet them in person and you're like, Wow, she's a monster, and I will never talk to her again. Like, there's been a few influencer people that like I've met, and like because I'm literally in Utah, like influencer universe, like I've met multiple people who you know come off online so nice and so sweet, and then you meet them and you're literally like, I would never be friends with you or work for you ever again. Like you treated me like not a human being, and so yeah, I just think that that's that's big for me, and Johanna is the same way where I still like no shade to anyone else, but I think people naturally and like risk rightfully so feel more like it's it's hard to be vulnerable, it's hard to show people your mistakes or to be messy, and I think it's just always come easy for both of us to be like like all the time. Like today, I literally texted her and was like, I did not charge enough for this upcoming wedding that I'm gonna do. And I was just frustrated, and I just needed someone who got it and was like, I'm so sorry. Yeah, I've been there though. Like, we get it, and we're not pretending in front of each other, like we're not doing the thing where we're like, We're so booked and so busy, and then behind the scenes were like really, really panicking because like that's just annoying for other girls out there who are trying to build their business and they're thinking, What am I doing wrong? You know, what's wrong with me? I'm not booking anything. Come to find out, like, everyone's in the same. But no one's actually saying it.
SPEAKER_01And I feel like that's like what's so nice and special about our friendship, too, is that like you we have somebody that we can turn to when you've had that scary moment of like, oh, like I I didn't charge enough, you know? And hopefully that's what the podcast can be too of just feeling like you're not alone and feeling like you have somebody that's going through similar things, and somebody that I don't know just validates your experiences and gives you comfort that like it's gonna be okay. Somebody else is doing this too.
SPEAKER_00Exactly. And like it's been years for us at this point, and like guess what? We're still making bad business decisions.
SPEAKER_01We're doing and like we're still like I thought you were gonna be like, it's been years for us, and like we're still in it, like we're we're it's working, guys. You're like, no, we still mess up.
SPEAKER_00But like, seriously, I mean to both levels. I'm like, yeah, we're still here. It's not easy. Um, the amount of times I've cried over situations that I've been in. I mean, yeah. Um, so we really like, I mean, we're already like 20 minutes in here, but like we really want to just give people anyone that's listening, maybe no one listens, but like if you're listening, we want to be friends with you and we want you to feel like you're guarantee you.
SPEAKER_01Guarantee you, my older sister.
SPEAKER_00Okay, okay, okay.
SPEAKER_01So Maddie, Maddie Karen, because she listened to the podcast episode where you were talking with Katie from Little Lady about pricing, and she like I brought I was saying something to her, and she was like, Okay, but you have to be doing your labor charge on top of it. And I was like, What? She's like, Katie from Little Lady says, like, it was so funny.
SPEAKER_00Well, I'm on to anyone that wants to listen. There you go. Um, okay, we're gonna share just random things about each other. Johanna has already composed a list. She's told me, she hasn't told me what's on the list, but she told me she created a list, and I have created a mental list as well of things that I know about her that are kind of funny. So would you like to start on our um I'm gonna start?
Authenticity Online Versus Real Life
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Okay, I'm gonna start. And the first one, maybe this isn't a great first one, but I'm gonna do it anyways, isn't necessarily like about you, but it more like I guess about the role you play in my life. Um just that like your your title in my life is my flower friend Andrea. So like when I I'll be talking to my sister-in-law Becca, I'll be talking to my dad, whatever. And it's oh yeah, so when I was Marco polling my flower friend Andrea, Andrea, you know, or like, oh yeah, and in Montana, my flower friend Andrea's coming, or like, and then I was and then after my flower friend Andrea has this wedding, and it's so funny because like You don't have another Andrea.
SPEAKER_00People that are close to me, yeah, the people that are close to me are like you can stop saying that, like you can just say, but what's funnier is that I do it too. Like I literally was like, Oh, my friend Johanna. And then, but mine is usually like she lives in California, like the context, but like, well, she's not like like a local friend. She's like, Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Well, and the funny thing about it too is like at this point, like we've talked about this, you know, when we've like DTR', uh, to bring that that phrase back, um, that it's like we we are truly just best friends now. It's not that you're just my flower friend, but for some reason I'm like, oh, like you have to be like, but like that's the context of like well, if anything, it's kind of like you get like she's my flower friend.
SPEAKER_00Like she gets me on another level. Like, I have friends from high school, I have a husband. Yes, they will never get it the way that you get it. Like, I mean, I was expressing my financial frustration to my husband, who then made me feel stupid and was like, Well, why aren't I not like on purpose, and it was just like inadvertently like well, why aren't you keeping your finances or his finances? He's just like, Well, why aren't you keeping track? And I'm like, I I don't know, okay. But like you're just like, Yeah, you know what? Been there, that sucks.
SPEAKER_01I'm like, it's okay, baby girl. Like, you're doing we can come back from it. Okay, the other part of Flowerfriend Andrea is my dad says so many nice things about you all.
SPEAKER_00So nice.
SPEAKER_01The way he's always like, anytime I bring you up, and he says it, every time he says it, he says it like it's the first time he's ever told me this. He'll be like, I'm so glad you have her. That's so nice. I'm so glad you guys have each other. And then most recently, like when you came to Montana to help me, he was like, I'm just so glad that you have Andrea. That's so cool that you guys have that relationship. Like he brings it up all the time, and I just think it's really cute. So my dad loves it.
SPEAKER_00Um, okay, let's see. On my list of things, I have like a couple random ones. Okay, one of them would be this is kind of funny, it's non-floral related. Johanna and I have both totaled two vehicles. Oh my god. And I just feel like I just feel like it's like funny because now we both have the same traumatic car experiences where like both of our husbands will follow people closely. Like we've both have wait, did you you haven't re-rented someone? Right? No, no, you've just been hit. No. See, I hit a car in front of me one time in high school, and I am still like, if we're getting too close to a car, I'm like, you need to stop, you need to slow down. And like, you just don't get it until you've been in an accident and you've hit that airbag, and you're like, that was not fun. I'm not interested.
Friendship Lore And Rapid Fire Facts
SPEAKER_01I will say my front airbag did not go off in either of my car accidents. Okay, but you have to know we have to okay. The people need to know that these two car accidents happened within six months of each other. I totaled both cars. The first one was very traumatic, like rolled the car multiple times, and I I ended like upside down.
SPEAKER_00But then you were just like fine. Like, like she just like got up.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, oh yeah, and in both of them, I didn't even I didn't go to the doctor for either of them.
SPEAKER_00It's not funny, but like somehow, like, what else are you gonna do? Like, you laugh, you're like, I know, I know, I know, I know.
SPEAKER_01But yeah, I am grateful that my airbags didn't go off because your airbags went off and caused a bloody mess. Because didn't you lose your didn't you?
SPEAKER_00I lost my front teeth and that's all. The context you need, I'm just gonna paint you the silliest little story real quick. I was 17. It was two weeks before like my junior year was ending. I had this little boyfriend. We'd been dating for like a year and a half. Like, yeah, I was convinced we were getting married. Spoiler alert, we did not get married. Um, and you know what? I ended up actually doing his wedding not that long ago, which is a story for another time. Um, but I got in this car accident, lose my front tooth, my like my lips, I because I think the tooth like hit my lips were huge. This was like during the Kylie Jenner lip challenge. Like, I looked like that. Like, honestly, like the bruising You're like, quick, somebody take a photo. I actually took a picture, I was like, I'm dying laughing. Like, I can't even take myself serious.
SPEAKER_01And then Were you wearing a white t-shirt?
SPEAKER_00Yes, I had like a white sweatshirt on, and it was like from oh what like it was from like American Eagle, and like I had just gotten it for my birthday. Like, it was just not the American Eagle. You know, literally totals car, can't go to the last two weeks of school, um, fails all my core classes because I couldn't take any finals because I was um concussed, and yeah, that was like a whole situation. But I did have this like really dramatic, I like romanticized it in my mind, but like my boyfriend like ran up to the car and was like, that's what they were like, Are you from family? Slow motion literally in my head. I like couldn't move because my mouth was just I was bleeding, and they were like, Don't move, because they were like worried that I had like you know, neck injury, whatever. Yeah, he's like running up, he's crying. He's like, they're like, Is she your family? He's like, She's my girlfriend, and I was like, Oh my gosh, she's my everything. Also, you need to know I was obsessed with the movie Slushbook, If I stay, I'm like, there's a whole car accident in that one. I was like, This is my moment.
SPEAKER_01Um, anyways, you're like, Hey, can I request a soundtrack here? Can somebody play some music?
SPEAKER_00He's like holding my hand like I'm dying. I mean, I looked probably I looked so much worse than I actually was, but like, yeah, that's my dramatic car accident story. I totaled another one later, which I mean it was less eventful, but I had to crawl out the backseat because I couldn't open my door. But I was fine in that one. I just was sad because I was like, this is embarrassing. I've now totaled two cars.
SPEAKER_01I mean, I kind of wish mine were when I was younger, though. Like, I hate I hate that I feel like it says something about my driving. Yeah, because I I'm not I'm not a super prideful driver, but I think I'm pretty deep. Like, I'm not a bad driver, and I just think it kind of gives me like a bad thing.
SPEAKER_00And that's fair, that's fair. Um, so that was my random obscure like fact. I knew my second one is that Johanna is an amazing like writer, like she can write of an amazing poem or like like a long, like she's just and like it with in addition, she can sing also very well, and she's also written songs, so you just need this context. Like, she's got she's a pretty artsy, like individual. That's very nice.
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SPEAKER_01She's more than a lot of people. I don't really write, she's so cheap. Um, I don't really write music anymore. I got my guitar out the other day, and I was like kind of trying to play, but it's kind of that thing of like when you stop practicing, you stop at it. And so it's like nothing. I did and it died. And so it's not as fun to play guitar now because it's just like it feels really hard. And yeah, so like I don't write music as much. I do write a lot, I write poetry and lyrical essay, and I do that a lot still. I dream about like being a writer and writing books, yeah. But that that's a it's just on the bench to like jump into fictional characters. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's it's something that could happen. Okay, that kind of brings me to my next thing, and it's that you love audiobooks. I know where this is coming. You love to read, I love to read. Okay, and you have a series that you were just like obsessed with.
SPEAKER_00Stop right now, whatever you're doing. If you like romance and not like even it's it's not smuddy, the Magnolia Parks um series. That is the best thing in the world. Okay, go ahead. Go ahead. The way I okay, when I first started reading When I did preface, I said you're gonna hate the first book, you're not gonna get why we're supposed to be shipping these two individuals, and you're gonna be annoyed. But just hang on, is what I think.
SPEAKER_01You know when people tell you to you know when people tell you to read a book for a long time and you kind of don't for like no reason, like there's like it's not like there's a real I don't know, you had been telling me to read it for a long time, and it kind of got to a point where there was like a day where you kind of you just like mentioned it, and I kind of like got like stupidly introspective about it, and I was like, this is really silly of me that I haven't read this book for her. That girl's my best friend, she talks to me every single day. It's the least I can do. And good thing I had that mentality going in because I did not like it, and it's so long, it's so long, it's for a romance book. 20 hours for a romance book, like yeah, that's yeah, it's not fantasy, we're not world building here, it's not we're it's not like historical, like I so yeah, it's really, really long. And so I just almost having a really hard time getting into it. Second book. I'm still and it's funny because I'm like, this isn't this isn't my friend told me to read a book and I don't like it, but I'm gonna do it for her, and then it's gonna be over. There's five books in this series.
SPEAKER_00But I was like, And they're all long, and then like listen, I'm really hoping that I can convince one person on this podcast. Maybe, maybe we can convince Maddie.
SPEAKER_01Don't worry, by the end of my explanation, yeah. Maddie's like, oh, right.
SPEAKER_00So there's like three books that are titled Magnolia, okay? And she's less like high society London, just like snooty little girl, but she's like funny. And so it's like her and her little like love journey. But then there's like books in between that talk about Daisy hates, and Daisy's like, she's literally like adjacent friends, like they're not friend friends, but like they're in the same world, like you know all the same characters. So it kind of does like a POV switch. And Daisy's family, they're like the heads of a gang in London as well, and they do crime and like but they steal art, and like they're like these it's like something about it's like white collar. Yeah, it's like so like they're very, very cultured and like they have this appreciation for beautiful things, and then they steal them, and you're like, ooh, I like this. Ooh, it's not like straight up crime, it's like I feel like I can justify this, you know? Yeah, justifyable.
SPEAKER_01She's like, I the way okay, I can't, I don't want to give I I'll just say the way I just fell in love with Julian. I was like, yeah, this is this man is everything.
SPEAKER_00Like I I love him. Um, anyways, I lost the context. There's five books.
SPEAKER_01And I'll say, like, yeah, I did get into them. I did love them. By the end of it, I was I was listening to the last one. It was like the last hour I was listening to it. I was flowering, the sunlight was like coming through the window. I had my coffee, and I was like just crying, feeling like life is so beautiful. Look at my amazing job. Love is real. Like, and and because they're so long, you you get to know the characters so much. Like they are. Everything is so deep. They and they're people and they hurt, like, they go through these things, and and so then it makes the good like so much better. Like, I was I was having a moment and stopping every like five minutes to Marco Polo you to tell you like what I just remember I was at. Yeah, yeah. So uh it was amazing. I'm so grateful for you.
SPEAKER_00Uh telling me, and then and then the funnier part about this you need to tell us. So then she made this super cute reel on Instagram with the audio.
SPEAKER_01Okay, I feel like I need to say with my reels with Instagram. I go through phases of like liking posting, not liking posting. The things I love to post are things that just feel like really sentimental about my life. Like I don't know, like it's just like videos of of just like everyday things, and sometimes I'll do voiceovers with them. Yeah, but for this one, I recorded the audio from the book.
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SPEAKER_00With a song that's playing during the part, like she'll that's what I love. The author will like list specific songs in certain moments, and like and then I go it's like a fun little treat, because then you go listen to it and you're like, oh my gosh. Yes. And she wrote the sweetest caption, like, if you're bored, just you'll go find it. If you're listening, go listen, go find Johanna's post. Go find the tagged like the Instagram for this. So like you I'm just this is taking up too much time. Okay, but like I got really obsessive about this like series, and it's like I follow the author, and like I've loved kind of hearing her like creative journey, and like part of why she says her books are so long is that like she wants her her characters to feel like you know them so well, like a character and friends, like you just know so much about them, and so you really do. Anyway, so she who did you tag? You tagged like the Magnolia Parks universe.
SPEAKER_01I tagged all of the people.
SPEAKER_00Here's what else is really fun. So there's they're like it's like gossip girl vibes, okay? So it's like the friend group, they have an Instagram and like they're active on it. Like, I say they like they are real people, okay. The writer, the characters, the writer knows her character so well, so like they have such a specific tone, and so like right now, like they're in Paris Fashion Week, and so like she's like posting like or like on a trip in Paris, I think. It's just fun, like they'll actively post like stories or posts, like as if this story is currently going. So it's like it feels like they are real life human beings, anyways. But just recently, this was like two weeks ago, and then just like a couple days ago, like nights ago, the Instagram like commented and then reposted it, and it was just like that, like, oh my gosh, like they know, and it was exciting when the author reposted it on her page, but why was it so much more exciting when the box said posted on their page?
SPEAKER_01Because I was like Magnolia saw it. Magnolia said it was good enough, like shh, and like Magnolia is a character, like Magnolia is not real, but like a real human being, but like I swear I know her.
SPEAKER_00I swear I know her.
SPEAKER_01Yep, yep, 100%. So okay, and then the other bit I feel like that this kind of leads into about you is like I feel like you just like dive into things. So like I think like you like uh like reality TV and like following up on what's happening with people, or like celebrities, or like you're a Swifty and like you know the lore. Like I feel like you're good at those things, and you kind of inform me and keep me up to date and keep me cool because I don't inherently like knowing.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I'm kind of just like uh what is that even called? I don't I just like consume all the things, yeah, yeah. And in a healthy-ish way. Like I don't just sit and rot watch TV, but like somehow I've made it my personal duty to know what's going on with everyone at all times.
SPEAKER_01I feel like in general, you just like to be all in. I feel like you feel things deeply, you really like like music, you love to just feel the music, you know.
SPEAKER_00Yes, and that's why like I know the lore of every Taylor Swift song because I feel like it hits harder when you know, like, but what is this song like actually about, like based on real life events, and then you can connect to it because then you can relate to it. When you're like, what the freak is this song about? Like, there's like a it's a great to have a fun little song, but I part of why I have I feel like a good memory is like I can connect specific songs with specific events and times, and like I don't know, big big fan of that.
SPEAKER_01Um when we went to Napa together and we went to like a little bouquet class together. Do you remember we just like listened to Taylor Swift just all Taylor Swift?
SPEAKER_00Yes, just know I had just come back from the Aeris tour, like show one in Glendale, Arizona. So I had like just come back from the Aeris tour.
SPEAKER_01Yes, and I was gonna say that about I did make that note about you being a Swifty, that you're not like a Swifty, as in like, oh, like now after the Aeris Tour, she's so big and like she's so fun, and yeah, I'm a Swifty. It's like, no, you have been a Swifty. You were beginning of Aeris Tour Swifty versus end of Aeris Tour Swifty. Because I feel like there's a difference.
SPEAKER_00There definitely is. And it's funny because I also would be like, I'm not that big of a Swifty, but then like I could literally tell you way, but like I'm not one of those people that's like I'm a huge fan, but like I'm like, oh yeah, I'm sure there's bigger fans than me. Like, I don't know, I'm like, oh yeah, yeah. And then and then I'm like, oh, actually, I think in most rooms.
SPEAKER_01No, actually, I fear you are a Swifty. Yeah. I'm in denial. I fear you are, and that whole drive, every single song, you're like, okay, so this song reminds me of the seventh grade. You're like, okay, so this song, this relationship happened, and then like I I love it. I I feel like that was like just good times. And it's a good thing that you can appreciate that. I love it. I love it. I have two more about you. One of them's gonna be shorter, and then one of them has a story. So I'm ready, I'm ready. I don't know where we're at in like, but okay, you go, and then I'll share, I'll share two.
SPEAKER_00Okay, I just feel like mine is mine, is just kind of silly and stupid. But there's some things about Johanna that I think are just like I've noticed and we've never really talked about. But Johanna loves like a good made coffee. She's she's like the equivalent of like a soda girl, where it's like I could make my soda at home, but like it's just gonna be better from a different place. But like, I think probably three out of five Marco Polo's that we have per day, like have something to do with like, oh, I really want to go get a coffee, but like I really, really shouldn't. And like half the time she makes the coffee and then she's like, That wasn't good, I'm gonna go get one.
SPEAKER_01That was bad. I or like I try to do this thing where like try to make the coffee healthy.
SPEAKER_00I'm like, I'm gonna put protein powder in it, and then I'm like, And then she's like, This But like it's like always this battle she's having on like, should I go get one? And she's like, No, no, no, I'm not gonna do it, I'm not gonna do it. And then like she probably ends up at a coffee shop like later that day and like gets a coffee.
SPEAKER_01When I told you, I was like, I'm gonna go to Ace Hardware and return this string that I bought one year ago. And my own. If they take it back, I will go get a coffee. And then I was like, they didn't take it back, and then I got a coffee.
SPEAKER_00She went for it anyways, so yeah, she loves a coffee.
SPEAKER_01Uh and I'm trying to like find the find the like the groove at home of like making a really good one. But like, I don't know. I'm it's just never the same. I just like it, it's not the same. I know, I know. It's fair. Okay, I love that. You love a conspiracy theory. I do, I really do.
SPEAKER_00You love a conspiracy theory.
SPEAKER_01And this kind of goes within consumption. I agree. Yes, I agree. And I would say that you believe maybe like you don't believe all of the things that you're gonna do. I don't put a lot of weight in any of that.
SPEAKER_00But you do believe in some I would say you do believe in some. Most of the time, I mean, at the state of the world currently, I'm like, you could probably tell me anything, and I'd be like, you know what? Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, I could see it. That's usually where I'm at with these conspiracies. I'm like, you know what? Is Selena dead? You know what? She could be, she could be dead. There are some weird Justin Bieber lyrics that indicate she could be dead or died.
SPEAKER_01Okay, Justin bringing up, oh my god.
SPEAKER_00And I'm a pretty big Billy fan.
SPEAKER_01So, like, I've I know I really, really like her right now. Known she loves him. I wish she was touring right now. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Think she has a new album on the horizon.
SPEAKER_01See, but here's the difference is like you knew that, but like I just see like her up on screen, so I'm like, oh, there must be some history there. So then I have to go like I have to go deep dive. Like, okay, so why is this important? So like that's what I'm saying. See, if you weren't sleeping, it was like this is so touching, but I had to learn why.
SPEAKER_00Okay, I'm just a chatter, but you know what, at this point, you guys, you know what you signed up for. I the whole point of this is you So I'm not even gonna apologize for being shoddy. Um I love Billie Eilish, and actually what's funny is we were just talking about Billie Eilish like three nights ago because I was listening to the Hit Me Hard and Soft. No, no, no, not that one. Which When We All Fall Asleep, Where Do We Go album.
SPEAKER_01Yes, which I did after you told me to listen to that, I did do it in the specific car loud, like in the order, too. In the order.
SPEAKER_00And it is it's beautiful, it's amazing, and that's an album that like has a spot for me. And anyways, she there's like she had a documentary on Apple, I think, and then she's done a couple scents like on YouTube and stuff that I love watching. But she had talked about how like she's always loved Justin Bieber, and then like he had asked to like be on the album. Like Bad Guy had already come out as a single, and then she had like asked him, he reached out to her team and was like, Can we get on the album? And she like was kind of like laughing, was like, Oh my gosh, like well, we've we're done with the album, but like I have to have him on here. So then they were like, Okay, we can put you on bad guy as like a remix, like you can come and like whatever. And and then if you I don't know if you've noticed this, but if you're been wondering why, it's a picture of her like wearing a Justin Bieber shirt and like her whole room has like Justin Bieber posters on it. That's the photo of like the c the album or like the track title for Bad Guy with Justin on it, and it's just so funny because it's like she was like, This was huge for me. Like she loves him, so yeah, I've known for a while. And then I saw the first Coachella video when she met him for the first time. That was like a big video that went viral because everyone was like, Oh my gosh.
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SPEAKER_01And the way he just like held it.
SPEAKER_00He's just so nice. Justin's been through a lot, and I'm not saying he's not problematic, but I think we can cut him some slack, you know? Yeah, so anyways, that's my Billy, that's my Billy lore as well.
SPEAKER_01I love it. Um, okay, wait, is it is it me or is it you? I have one more.
SPEAKER_00You go for it, you go for it.
SPEAKER_01Okay. I'm gonna tell the story part of this first, and then I'm gonna explain like what it says about you so that we end on like a cute note because the story's just funny.
SPEAKER_00Um I feel like I know where this is.
SPEAKER_01I was at your house. Okay, maybe not. Do you know?
SPEAKER_00No, no, no, I don't think I do.
SPEAKER_01Okay, okay, okay. I was at your house, and I had my dog Briar with me.
SPEAKER_00And Okay, this actually does go in the direction that I thought it was, but it's not the story I thought. Okay, okay.
SPEAKER_01Okay, uh, so I have Briar with me, and he runs out of the car and runs over into a neighbor's.
SPEAKER_00I have some problematic neighbors, okay? That's a story for another time.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Yeah. Okay, so this specific neighbor has signs that say And not just one sign.
SPEAKER_00Like four signs.
SPEAKER_01Multiple signs. Four signs. That say, like, no pee, no poop.
SPEAKER_00It's a picture of a dog and then like a circle with like the X on it.
SPEAKER_01Like Yeah. And of course, like he ran straight to that yard and and he he did his business. Like fast. It was like an immediate, yeah, which poor guy. He was like, I gotta go!
SPEAKER_00And he knew where he was going.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. So I went and got a bag and I cleaned it up, and then the neighbor, she wasn't in her house, she was walking down the street. She has a dog and like saw it happen. That's important.
SPEAKER_00She has a dog, makes it poop on the ass ball.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Okay.
SPEAKER_00Weird.
SPEAKER_01Which that's wild. It's weird. That's wild. So she she saw it. So she she saw it coming, like, or she saw it happening, but like I didn't know that she was there. I didn't know that she could see, whatever. So she kind of walks up and she says something. No, no, no, no.
SPEAKER_00She started yelling like from like a couple houses away. Like, oh, I don't remember. I I remember because it's like girl. Don't worry, I remember. I'm right here. You could just wait until you got close.
SPEAKER_01Okay. Context to uh I have problems with authority, working on that in therapy. Uh it's fine, but I I don't want to be yelled at. I mean, nobody wants to be yelled at, but like I could I could cry if somebody tells me, even if I know, even if I know that I'm not necessarily in the wrong or if they're being unreasonable, like I my automatic reaction is to shrink, to apologize, like to fawn, you know, and then later just like I feel so bad about it. So she's yelling, and then she comes over and is like, he he went to the bathroom in the lawn, he's not supposed to do that. And I was like, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. And Andrea just walks up. And you're like, she cleaned it up. I was like sorry. Like, we're cleaning it up. She says, she says, there's signs, and you say, Oh, I'm sorry, he can't read.
SPEAKER_00The dog can't read.
SPEAKER_01It was just so funny because it turned this moment that I really would have like internalized and been like, Oh, I'm so sorry. Like, and you just made it like so funny. And I'm like, Yeah, he can't read. Like, yeah, you just didn't care. And I feel like it totally gave me that uh vibe, and like I just I just felt different about it than I would have felt otherwise. Which brings me to about you. I feel like you are like fiercely protective, you stand up for yourself and other people, like you're not taking shit from anybody, and that like carries over to like cover me, you know, to take care of me. But you know what?
SPEAKER_00And there's a I'm I'm I'm glad, you know, that someone can benefit from some of my problematic things that I say.
SPEAKER_01I don't think it's problematic. I feel like I want to be more like that. I want to stand up for myself.
SPEAKER_00It feels like it because it's like, oh, I'm always in the middle of some kind of a thing, but I think it's like, but I'm willing to say something's wrong when it's wrong.
SPEAKER_01When other people when other people aren't willing or they're too scared, or they're too like if it's not really affecting them, like they're like, well, why would I even bother with that? Like, I'm not gonna get it.
SPEAKER_00And I'm like, if I can teach one person to change their life, then I will. Like, yeah. I have a I have a strong moral compass. Um, but yeah, if you need someone to fight your battles, I will fight them nine times out of ten.
SPEAKER_01You put your gloves on. I love it. Okay, well, that's it. That's it for me. I love you.
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SPEAKER_00Um, thanks. I love you too. Um, yeah, I guess I I'll finish off on my sweet, my sweet note about Johanna. Um, it's kind of it's it feels kind of sad, but like this is adulting, right? Like, as you get older, you start to kind of have this like, oh, there's these certain patterns in my life, and do I like these patterns or why do these patterns happen? And I've been through a lot of therapy and done a whole therapy journey on my own as well, which is another topic that she and I can really, really relay on, which um will come up eventually, I'm sure.
SPEAKER_01Oh, I'm if I'll just do a whole mental health. Let an episode pass without bringing up what I'm talking about in therapy, that'll be a miracle. I don't know.
SPEAKER_00Um, but I I've kind of noticed, like, I seem to always which this gives me red flag to my own self. Just know that when I say this, you're gonna be like red flag, and I'm like, yeah, trust me, I know. You're like, don't worry, because I'm self-aware, okay? That like I've always kind of struggled, like keeping like a specific friend in my life.
SPEAKER_01And I Okay, pause, pause right here. That is not a red flag, though. This is like a lot of times you'll be like, I don't think this says something.
SPEAKER_00But a lot of times you'd be like, oh, well, obviously she's the common thread. Like, because I've met those people where you're like, you know, she's like kind of cause and drama.
SPEAKER_01I'm just gonna say I understand how you might feel that way, but I don't think this is a red flag.
SPEAKER_00But like from my own self perspective, I'll be like, man, like I'll have these times where like I have a close friend and then like it fizzles out, or like it just kind of gets weird, and like I don't know what I do wrong. And like I've started to kind of get in this like, man, do I overshare? Am I too much? I'm you know over the top, and it feels so frustrating because like be like on the spectrum of like I feel so fiercely for people, like I feel the opposite too, right? Like I hurt with my people, or like I care so much that like sometimes I notice like I care more than other people do. And I'm like, and that's okay, like that's not someone's fault that like I'm emotionally just like a deeper feeler than them, and you know, like I don't that they might have other friends that they connect better with, like, and I'd never be mad at someone for that, but it's been like more lonely as I've become more of an adult where I'm like, man, like I don't really like I don't have like a long-standing person that I can be a hundred percent vulnerable with myself, where I feel like we're so aligned. And Johanna has really been that for me of like someone who I'm like I could call her at any point in the day, and if she didn't answer and I and she said, like, what's going on? I was like, I need you to call me. Like, I know she drop everything for me, and like match that energy to be like, How can I support you? And sometimes I call her about like something stupid, like I'm mad about my dog situation, like I'm mad at my dog, like my dog's pissing me off, and she'll be like, So like so nice. You're like, that's so important.
SPEAKER_01Like a FaceTime comes, a FaceTime comes, and you just I just don't know what it's gonna be, but like I would say nine times out of ten, I answer. Like the other day I had a freelancer over and I answer, or I'm in the I'm tanning, and like the red light.
SPEAKER_00Like literally red light, like what's going on? She's like, I'm tanning. Like she's whispering. Sorry, I'm tanning. You're like, uh, okay, you can call me later.
SPEAKER_01Later. Why'd you answer?
SPEAKER_00I'm like, and I'm not like a big crier, but like there's been a couple times where I call and I'm like, I'm gonna cry, and it's not that deep, but I'm just gonna tell you how I'm feeling, and everything's gonna be fine. And it's just been so comforting that, like, not only do I have a best friend, but like really truly someone like all tying it back in that like who gets the highs and lows of this business that we're in, like, that's so rooted in like economical factors outside of our control, and like there are like things that we can't explain or we can't foresee happening that come with this business or growing a business in general. Like, florals are kind of niche, like photography has such a different like build than a florist, like you know, like we have such a high like product cost, like there's just so much that's like it's hard to relate to another business that gets.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, because you're saying you're saying even another wedding industry business, like it's still not even.
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SPEAKER_00Yeah, I guess. Like the and the wedding season and how it's just like weird, like I don't know, but it's so comforting to know, like, at any given point, I have someone I can call, be vulnerable with, and like we'll match the energy on it too. Like, I think the first time this was not even that long ago, which is kind of crazy. I booked like a wedding over ten thousand dollars, and I have been work I'd been working so hard, and I got like a DoorDash of like a can like two candles that were gold, like a 10. Oh wow, it was a 10. And like she got me like it was really cute, like like a cute sparkling cider and like a bunch of other gold things, like it was all just like a gold theme, and I was like so unexpected. She didn't say anything about it, and like truly was just ready to share my successes with me and like hype me up about it, even though like it's a goal that I'm like lots of people have hit before, like you know, in retrospect, like I've done plenty more than that now, but like at the time, like it was a huge deal, like just breaking that barrier. But like you met the energy, you know, where my husband's like, That's awesome. I'm like, Okay, I don't feel like you're getting it. Like, like you don't get the blood, sweat, and tears that go into trying to build your business into a certain point. So I think that's kind of my thing is like I it's just so so nice to have a person that can match your energy, that can be as supportive and vulnerable with you. So that's the end.
SPEAKER_01I I like to you're talking about like sharing, oversharing, and I just feel I it's like it doesn't exist. The oversharing doesn't exist between us, like there just really is everything. Um, yeah, and I I'm grateful that our relationship really did start for me in like this mentor position where I feel like I had a lot to learn from you, and it's been really cool to see like both of our businesses really flourish because of the hard work we're putting in, you know? And like now being being like each other's mentor in a way, like yeah, I can just call. I mean, we joke about like billing billing like the other person's time. I wish like I wish we could bill like lawyers and be like, oh, a console, I had to call I had to call Andrea. I had to call my flower friend Andrea.
SPEAKER_00That's me. Um, okay, well, if you made it this far, we're so glad to have you. And if you liked the dialogue in this um first episode, you can expect a lot more of it. And we have a lot of fun titles already planned out, um, from you know, nitty-gritty business to kind of just fun and lighthearted. And you know what? I feel like this is something that I would listen to like while I'm flowering. Like that's kind of my idea. Like, you're getting your flowers, you're getting ready to process, you need something to pass your time away, and we want to be your friends to just kind of like keep you company and help you pass your time away. And if you're not a florist and you're really just here for a good time, get that laundry basket out and let us bore you to death with some of our really random life or business stories. Um, but yeah, we're super excited. Do you have anything else you want to close out on?
SPEAKER_01Just yeah, join us. Join us for the flowers, join us for the chatting.
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